In case you've ever wondered, "Just how much smaller than Challenger is the Valiant, anyway? And how would they stack up to a Star Destroyer?"

I bodged the images from http://www.merzo.net/ , which may be the only site on the Web worth specifically starting Internet Explorer for. Yes, I differ with the merzo.net maintainer on the size of the battlestar. No, I'm not interested in an argument about it. That's how big a battlestar is in the UF universe.

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Do all Macross-class SDF ships come with the hitchhiker, or is that design specific to Wayward Son? ;)

Jeanne

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>Do all Macross-class SDF ships come with the hitchhiker, or is that
>design specific to Wayward Son? ;)

Since there was only ever one of them (the SDF-23 is an example - well, OK, the only example - of the larger Megaroad class), the question is a bit moot. :)

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>>Do all Macross-class SDF ships come with the hitchhiker, or is that
>>design specific to Wayward Son? ;)
>
>Since there was only ever one of them (the SDF-23 is an example -
>well, OK, the only example - of the larger Megaroad class), the
>question is a bit moot. :)
>
I think Gojira would argue he's pretty much one of a kind too!!

Hmmm....

I didn't know that Utena was subletting her ship's computer to give people access to the Internet. :}

(IOW: I think you mean IPS, not ISP in the ship ID number.)

> Hmmm....
>
> I didn't know that Utena was subletting her ship's computer to give
>people access to the Internet. :}
>
>
> (IOW: I think you mean IPS, not ISP in the ship ID number.)

HAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!! :)

hmm... I didnt catch that until I scrolled back up there and looked :)

> I didn't know that Utena was subletting her ship's computer to give
>people access to the Internet. :}

There's no need to try to be cute, you know. A simple email/privmsg saying "I fear you may have failed to spot a typo during your customary thorough, careful vetting of this absolutely critical document" would have sufficed, and also saved me from starting my week by receiving a horse laugh from WengFook.

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>> I didn't know that Utena was subletting her ship's computer to give
>>people access to the Internet. :}
>
>There's no need to try to be cute, you know. A simple email/privmsg
>saying "I fear you may have failed to spot a typo during your
>customary thorough, careful vetting of this absolutely critical
>document" would have sufficed, and also saved me from starting my week
>by receiving a horse laugh from WengFook.
>

aww... It was'nt funny until he posted it that way... :)
*ahem* I shall endeavor not to laugh like a horse if it offends you.

By way of a quick question. Barring the SDF-17's main gun, what is the overall firepower comparison between the Battlestar and the Wayward Son. And given the Battlestar's role as a fighter platform, what is the small ship contingent comparison for the two?

Many thanks in advance...

Brian

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I can't speak for Gryph, and I can't speak for Battlestar Gallictica (sp?), but the answers for Wayward Son should be "A hell of a lot" and "A hell of a lot". I know, for example, that the original Macross had 430+ Veritechs and Destroids on it at one time in the show. And I'm sure there must be some BSG fansite out there with rough fighter complement and weapons array for the Battlestar.

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>By way of a quick question. Barring the SDF-17's main gun, what is
>the overall firepower comparison between the Battlestar and the
>Wayward Son.

An Atlantia-class battlestar actually has an edge over the SDF-17 in the emplaced-weapons category. The SDF-17 has its Reflex cannon, of course, whereas the original battlestar class lacks an Omega-class weapon, but battlestars have significantly more turbolasers, air defense guns, and whatnot. In terms of overall firepower, maneuverability, and weapons effectiveness, an Atlantia-class battlestar stacks up quite well against an Imperial-class Star Destroyer, despite the Star Destroyer's size advantage.

An Atlantia's main disadvantage in a running gunfight with a ship like a Star Destroyer is the fact that the native Colonial tech base does not extend to energy shielding. On the other hand, battlestars are among the most heavily armored, survivable warships in space because their designers had to compensate for that very weakness.

>And given the Battlestar's role as a fighter platform,
>what is the small ship contingent comparison for the two?

I don't usually get too involved in this kind of detail. Heck, even when I was doing obsessively detailed technical readouts for the whole WDF fleet, I didn't get into figuring out the small-craft complements of the carrier classes and what have you. I suppose I'll need to do that sooner or later, but I'm not feeling like getting into it right now. :)

As a basic relative yardstick, though, you can assume that each battlestar fighter bay is equivalent to a single carrier deck. Thus, Galactica would have a fighter complement roughly equivalent to the SDF-17's (because the SDF-17 has two carriers, Daedalus and Prometheus, in permanent dock), or twice the capacity of a single-deck carrier like a Bengal or Confederation.

Star Destroyers don't have conventional carrier equipment, but the compactness of TIE fighters means they have a fighter complement about equivalent to a battlestar's as well. The price they pay for that is, of course, the fact that TIE craft are all but useless in an atmosphere and can't land on their own or be recovered by conventional carriers. If an ISD serving in a combined fleet with a battlestar is destroyed, the battlestar can't take in its orphans. Bit of a drawback, that. Hopefully the Imperial Mark IV will correct it.

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Not that anyone cares, but the PWEI mission in "Rights of Passage" is one of my favorite scenes in pre-Symphony UF.

I didn't realize it was caged from Star Wars. :) I guess i should go re-read it...

t.

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>Yes, I differ with the merzo.net maintainer on the size of the
>battlestar. No, I'm not interested in an argument about it. That's
>how big a battlestar is in the UF universe.

Gryphon, don't apologize. The comparison charts at Star Trek Minutiae (http://www.st-minutiae.com/misc/comparison.xhtml) has the Columbia Class Battlestar at 1265 Meters and an Imperial Class Star Destroyer at 1606 meters. They also compare various ships on one chart. Check it out. I think you would agree with the given sizes.

Michael

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