R60 Fuse Icon Decoding
#1
Fuse Icon Decoding
Currently on a road trip and the 12v power sockets went dead. In trying to identify which fuse may be the culprit, I encountered the attached and am having trouble figuring out which icon is the right one. I think it's F44, but if anyone here knows, my phone and iPad would be grateful!
Sorry for the sideways pic. I'm surprised I was able to post this from my phone!
Sorry for the sideways pic. I'm surprised I was able to post this from my phone!
#5
The icon is appropriate for a power outlet. I thought it interesting that they no longer use a cigarette icon, but in many markets MINI comes standard with only filler plugs, no actual lighter plug (optional).
#6
#8
Since we are on a fuse icon tangent, does anyone have an idea of what symbol represents the radio/cd head unit? On a BMW board, I found one discussion where a poster put a detailed chart showing the BMW fuse symbols and their definitions. Many of the symbols were identical to the ones on the Mini chart.
The symbol that post said represented radio/AV circuits was the rectangle with a line in the middle and a dot at each end of the line (just that, not the version with what appears to be a black monitor screen above the rectangle). On my R57, the fuse diagram shows three separate fuse circuits with that symbol. That makes me wonder if those represent one circuit for the head unit, another for the external amplifier and a third for something else "entertainment system" related?
Or is that rectangle symbol representing something else entirely?
The symbol that post said represented radio/AV circuits was the rectangle with a line in the middle and a dot at each end of the line (just that, not the version with what appears to be a black monitor screen above the rectangle). On my R57, the fuse diagram shows three separate fuse circuits with that symbol. That makes me wonder if those represent one circuit for the head unit, another for the external amplifier and a third for something else "entertainment system" related?
Or is that rectangle symbol representing something else entirely?
Last edited by mikeythemars; 07-02-2016 at 04:56 PM.
#10
pkunk, thanks so much!
F5 is the one of the two circuits in my R57 that has that rectangle symbol, is a 20A fuse and is listed in what you shared as "sound system amplifier." However, when I opened up the cabin fuse compartment in my MINI, the slot for F5 was empty; I've never removed any fuses, so that is the way my R57 was delivered.
That suggests MINI/BMW was putting a 'generic" fuse location sticker on the cabin fuse compartments doors of 2nd gen MINIs (similar to the one at the beginning of this thread) but simultaneously omitting (or possibly adding) fuses depending upon the specific configuration of a given MINI coming out of the factory.
The other fuse listed on my sticker with that rectangular symbol is R49, which your photos didn't include. I'll go ahead and test it with a piggyback fuse adapter to see when it conducts voltage. What I'm looking to do is locate a fuse circuit that is only on when the audio head unit and/or external amp is running; need that to send a 12+v turn on signal to a separate subwoofer amp I just installed.
I've seen other info that supposedly indicate what wires in the HK harness carry external amp turn on voltage. Integral Audio says it's the black wire coming out of pin #1 on the X15 connector, but in my car, that wire is +12V constant (even when the car is idle with the fob out of the holder). Another post here said it's a white wire in pin #10 in the grey part of the connector going into the HK external amp (yes, a white wire somewhere in that tangle of wires in the right side of the photo below; I haven't found or tested that one yet).
HK amp with connections
UPDATE: I tested fuse R49 this morning. Still not sure what it powers, but did determine it immediately turns on when the key fob is inserted. So to quote U2, no, I still haven't found what I'm looking for (the fuse circuit that powers the head unit and/or the remote amp turn on line coming from it).
Next step is to remove the driver seat again, take the cover off the HK amp, unlatch the wiring the harness going into to it and see if there is a white wire (which one credible source says is the amp remote turn on) in pin #10 of the grey connector half. If there is, test it to see if it indeed goes 12+V when the head unit is turned on.
F5 is the one of the two circuits in my R57 that has that rectangle symbol, is a 20A fuse and is listed in what you shared as "sound system amplifier." However, when I opened up the cabin fuse compartment in my MINI, the slot for F5 was empty; I've never removed any fuses, so that is the way my R57 was delivered.
That suggests MINI/BMW was putting a 'generic" fuse location sticker on the cabin fuse compartments doors of 2nd gen MINIs (similar to the one at the beginning of this thread) but simultaneously omitting (or possibly adding) fuses depending upon the specific configuration of a given MINI coming out of the factory.
The other fuse listed on my sticker with that rectangular symbol is R49, which your photos didn't include. I'll go ahead and test it with a piggyback fuse adapter to see when it conducts voltage. What I'm looking to do is locate a fuse circuit that is only on when the audio head unit and/or external amp is running; need that to send a 12+v turn on signal to a separate subwoofer amp I just installed.
I've seen other info that supposedly indicate what wires in the HK harness carry external amp turn on voltage. Integral Audio says it's the black wire coming out of pin #1 on the X15 connector, but in my car, that wire is +12V constant (even when the car is idle with the fob out of the holder). Another post here said it's a white wire in pin #10 in the grey part of the connector going into the HK external amp (yes, a white wire somewhere in that tangle of wires in the right side of the photo below; I haven't found or tested that one yet).
HK amp with connections
UPDATE: I tested fuse R49 this morning. Still not sure what it powers, but did determine it immediately turns on when the key fob is inserted. So to quote U2, no, I still haven't found what I'm looking for (the fuse circuit that powers the head unit and/or the remote amp turn on line coming from it).
Next step is to remove the driver seat again, take the cover off the HK amp, unlatch the wiring the harness going into to it and see if there is a white wire (which one credible source says is the amp remote turn on) in pin #10 of the grey connector half. If there is, test it to see if it indeed goes 12+V when the head unit is turned on.
Last edited by mikeythemars; 07-03-2016 at 08:16 AM.
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#12
I recently had the same issue of a blown fuse for the cigarette lighter now called a power outlet in my R60 countryman. It is the R44 20 amp fuse. the symbol you will see on all models I suspect is the - and + symbols on each side of a partial circle with a dot and then arrow to the right. Of course that is a power outlet because they have positive and negative terminals! how silly of me or how silly of mini for not putting it in the manual.
#13
I've been seriously upset working on my R56 and saw this and busted up laughing. Thanks for the humor!
#15
Good stuff here. Found a link via Google when looking for wiring color code translations. I'm wiring up a Tekonsha trailer light module, need to run 12VDC (fused for 15A) straight from battery to the module's power input according to Tekonsha.
Had been hoping I could use that boot-located charging socket but as it's not hot 24/7/365 the module would require programming every time my '13 R55 was turned on again. Kinda inconvenient but no worse I guess than running a #10 wire up to the battery compartment from the boot where the module's gonna be living.
Had been hoping I could use that boot-located charging socket but as it's not hot 24/7/365 the module would require programming every time my '13 R55 was turned on again. Kinda inconvenient but no worse I guess than running a #10 wire up to the battery compartment from the boot where the module's gonna be living.
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